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A last encounter with brilliance: Edward Said's final interview

Documentary recounts the life and views of one of the most remarkable thinkers of our time

Edward Said, who died last September at the age of 67 after a long illness, was one of the most remarkable thinkers and intellectuals of our time. The 120-minute documentary "Edward Said: The Last Interview" is a compelling portrait of a man who was not only a strong advocate of the Palestinian cause, but an accomplished teacher, literary critic, writer and musician.

A year before his death, he agreed to be interviewed over three days in what is one of the most riveting biographical documentaries to come out in recent years.

After living for more than 10 years with a fatal strain of leukemia, which he was diagnosed with in 1991, Said refused interviews. However, former student D. D. Guttenplan along with director Mike Dibb convinced him otherwise. This no-frills documentary does not include archival footage to contextualize the speaker and his life; it simply records the casual conversation between Said and American-based journalist Charles Glass that weaves in and out of Said's childhood, writing, life as an academic, involvement with Yasser Arafat, and his strong opinions on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

This is a talking heads documentary, just the interviewer and interviewee in one room, with the conversations recorded by Dibb, using a handful of camera positions.

Confronted with the visage of a terminally ill Said, Glass does not hesitate to ask about his incurable leukemia. Admitting that it drained him of much time and energy, Said openly reflects that it had become a point of fixation for him. However, even as the illness and chemotherapy ravaged his body, Said found it "very difficult to turn [himself] off." One exception was after Sept. 11, 2001, when the media pressed him for interviews and Said knew that he did not have the strength that was needed.

When asked about his memoir "Out of Place" (1999), Said explains that he wrote it after the death of his mother. Born in 1935 in Jerusalem to Palestinian parents, Said was raised primarily in Cairo, Egypt, and Palestine. Recognizing his otherness in colonial Cairo, he realized that he was different from his childhood teachers, who were English, and "referred to home in a different way." As an escape from his reality, during these years he discovered his love of literature, music and films, particularly "Tarzan" in which Said always identified with the colonists. In "Out of Place," Said attempted to "recover these lost worlds" that had changed so much since he left as a young boy.

This sense of difference carried over into his academic training at Princeton and Yale. It was there that he discovered the intellectual influences of Plato and 18th century Neopolitan Giambattista Vico. Harvard professor Harry Levin, who was a trained comparatist, was also an important part of Said's scholarly education. For Said, the "unlikes" drove his intellectual curiosity in literature and music. Counterpoint, which can be applied to both disciplines, is the combination of independent voices or melodic lines that establish a harmonic relationship while retaining their individuality. This comparative formula obsessed Said.

The representation of Arabs and the "other" also intrigued Said and led him to research historical depictions starting with Mohammed in Dante's "Inferno" who landed in the eighth circle of hell. This also led to his tour de force "Orientalism" (1979), which he wrote during a fellowship at the Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences at Stanford.

Escalating violence in Palestine, starting with the 1967 and the 1973 wars, led to Said's growing involvement with the Palestinian cause. As a member of the Palestinian National Council from 1977-1991, Said became a close ally to Yasser Arafat. While he later would vehemently disagree with the late chairman of the PLO, Said explains that the "PLO made it possible for the Palestinians to have an identity."

His major break with Arafat's leadership came with the signing of the Oslo Accord in 1993 that had "nothing about the end of occupation [and] nothing about settlements of Jerusalem." According to Said, Arafat had simply stopped caring for his people and Oslo was nothing more than a "victory for Zionism." Arafat answered back by banning Said's books in Palestine.

But, for Said, Arafat is not the only one to blame for the injustices done to the Palestinians. Israeli leader Ehud Barak, showed one face to the rest of the world while he actually went against the Oslo agreement. Implementing more settlements, Barak's infamous "generous offer" at Camp David included "bits of land bounded by Israeli land ... Palestinians were accepting smaller and smaller bits."

Mixed in with Said's condemnation of the corrupt Palestinian and Israeli leaders, is his analysis of Palestinian society. For him the main problem lies in the fact that the "intellectual class - teachers, doctors, and lawyers - never stood up to Arafat." There are study centers in the West Bank "but people aren't taught about Israeli society." With the absence of role models and understanding of their occupiers the Palestinian people are also at fault.

Said spent 30 years as a professor in English and Comparative Literature at New York's prestigious Columbia University and never thought of returning to live in Palestine. In his classroom he never taught politics, only literary classics. This distance and separation between his worlds grew out of his feeling that he "could do more in America."

Perhaps the most captivating moments in the documentary occur when Said elucidates his solutions for the future of the conflict. In a situation that is focused around land, he suggests that they must live together.

"It's fine if Israelis want a state but not at the cost of Arab lives." Israelis and Palestinians need to "admit the existence of another people."

No matter how utopian it is, Said presses for living side by side as citizens, not separate nations. Otherwise, in terms of the Palestinians "all that's being offered is that they negate themselves."

Relying heavily on his memories and stories of past involvements, Edward Said's last interview does not come across as the final words of a passionate multi-faceted man. Whether you are familiar with Said's career and writings or not, this film is an honest and enthralling tribute to a man who defied categorization and inexorably fought for truth and justice. Ultimately it is a soberly shot documentary, which allows the viewer to hear one of the 20th century's major intellectual figures give a forceful account of some of the beliefs, values and occupations that have shaped his life and work.

"Edward Said: The Last Interview" is currently available on specialist DVD Web sites, for example www.ica.org.uk and at some specialist stores in the Arab world.

This story was originally written for The Electronic Intifada, a Web-based journal and information service on Palestine. The Daily Star reprints it with permission.

Beirut,01 10 2005
Jenny Gheith
The Daily Star
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